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It was made out of lumber, and the outside was tarpaper. When I first saw that Finn sauna house, where I grew up, near Dear River, there was a bench in there about two feet high. The room inside was about twelve feet, twelve feet round, some of them. The stove was in the middle and some of the men were standing against the wall. They'd stand over the rocks, on both sides, and one of them would spray the rocks. Some of the Finns also use the cedar boughs to beat themselves. Some of them would just wipe off, because it's cold up in the North. Some woman, you know, might look in -- they're always fooling around. Cut the roots, wait awhile, and the stump will come right out. White people and also the older class Indian taught us how to do things. Then they blowed the stump and pulled out the pieces with their horse. As they cleared the land, they were planting at the same time, so they still got their crop while they were working on clearing the land. They grew big cabbages -- cabbages -- for sauerkraut. They put in their garden while they were killing the roots, younger trees, and young shoots coming up. They were working there in the summer, and after summer was over they'd go home and work. And the size of them all depends on the size of the crew who's going to take them saunas. Some of the Finnbaths were made out of logs, sometimes. But sawed lumber The first steamer was made of rocks. In the lumbercamp saunas they always used a barrel. And they had boughs, cedar boughs, in there to splash water on the hot rocks. They dip it in water and just splash that on the rock and the steam comes. They didn't used soap in that bath house, to wash themselves. You the sweat out from you -- but you have to drink water. They would beat themselves while they were standing or sitting on the platform. Some of them would run outside and roll in the snow, and very quick they went back in to wipe off. They had their clothes in the dressing room, not in the bath house. They could go in there and dress up all they want, and for as long as they want. Somebody would set them up to take a peek in there. They grew all kinds of stuff -- carrots, big son-of-a-guns. So when they worked on the land they still got a crop too. The outside of the log building was anyway you wanted it. I looked at the Polish and how they work in the fields. But the ceded land was for the settlers to improve as homesteads. The first houses these Finns built were little log cabins. If they were going to have a home there permanently and build a farm there, they would make the houses better. If they had three or four, they got logs for a big house. We have better roads now, but in those days that I'm talking about we didn't have roads. When you build these log houses down on the ground like that, you can do it much faster. You have to put blocks in the center so the floor won't shake. The boy helped the father-in-law and the girl helped the mother-in-law. You just come and use them like they were your horses." "Ya, I'll feed 'em and give 'em plenty of water." "As long as they're not abused, you can use them." "OK." Yep, the Finns helped us lots like that, right from the beginning. Boy, they carry a load, those things, with just a stick around their shoulders and a pull-pole hooked onto the sled or wagon! Everybody laughed when they used a horse collar upside down to fit the ox. They didn't want to handle too much, but they always had a few corn stalks or a little corn to throw into the pigs. Sometimes they'd turn the pigs loose and they'd root up things. After they improved it, they were legalized to get a fee patent. But for temporary housing, for the first little houses, the first building, they had a little cabin with a lean-to roof. But they got by, squeezing by, just the cheapest way they knew. You have pickeroons nowadays and you can line the logs up any way you want to. And when we built a house that way, we could move that house anytime we wanted. So that's the way it went, because the old people were getting old. Uh uh, you don't have to use those straps anymore." "Well, how much you gonna charge us? Why, they didn't have to run around taking care of the pigs because those pigs would root all over. A farm that was well-built became kind-a like a business in those days. Sinkola wasn't a businessman, but he was in business with his farm and cattle.

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The Finns sound like they could be a bullfrog: " The Finlanders know we don't make fun of them. It would take about, oh, four to six hours to heat the rocks for a sweatbath. The smoke escaped through the top, and they had a shutter to adjust the heat and the smoke. The first permanent sauna was just a little lumber building that was sheeted and insulated. It was just a small room, because when they build a sauna the size depends on how many will use it -- and there weren't them days. I used to go in there and see them standing on a bench, oh, about six-feet wide. You can't " That steam would come up so fast and they'd holler. You had to put on an apron in case somebody opens the door. But they aren't supposed to bother them men or tempt them when they are taking a bath. Some places they were burning it as fast as they could. A horse alone can pull a stump out pretty good, two, three years after you cut the roots. It doesn't take much of a piece of ground to raise a big crop. When they get their foothold they grow later on by themselves." Some places the Indians used to plant the stump. The Polish got in there too, and helped clear fields. It looks to me like regardless whether they're Polish or not -- or in whatever area they used to live -- they're living here as a community. Regardless of the nationality, when people come in this area they're ready to work. They'd just throw the rocks in and build a fire underneath them. They did the same thing as the Indian had done for a living. Mostly they used those Swede saws, I mean a one-man cedar saw -- that was a wide one, with one handle on -- and an axe. Then they took grubhoes to cut the sod up and to get the roots out all around the stumps. Then they took their teams and pulled the stumps out. You can even grub them out after a couple of years. And when you cut the roots and then cover the roots up, the roots deteriorate into the soil. The railroad was trying to pull through from Grand Rapids .